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>>laurex+(OP)
Disclaimer: I am a bleeding heart liberal and this may filter my observations.

I have been to a few rallies/vigils/marches lately and all incidences of violence that I have witnessed either in person or through media has been instigated by the police. As far as I know,every documented case where a formerly peaceful crowd turns into chaos has been started with police shooting pepperspray, teargas, or whatever into the crowd.

I find it really hard to not come to the conclusion that the police is desperately trying to set a narrative to justify a history of violence by escalating more violence, but please, someone, restore my faith.

>>jascii+Wb
From all the videos/pictures circulating I see both sides doing cheap-shots to escalate the situation and prove that their narrative is the right one.

But when will people take a step back and start asking themselves; who profits on this turmoil?

>>TheCha+Hh
Do you have any concrete examples where the protesters instigated the violence? I have not been able to find any.

>>jascii+sj
Well a police officer was killed trying to prevent a store being looted. But many people here consider looting as justified and warranted in the current circumstances - shop owners should grin and bear it for the greater cause - so it may not be what you are asking for.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/small-town-police-chief-killed-off...

>>lenkit+7C1
Police is actively avoiding helping victims of lootings. Helps to discredit the protests and US police NEVER have an interest in helping anyways.

Just from personal experience in ca. 2012, the Binghamton, NY PD has openly threatened to plant drugs on us following a a noise complaint.

We talked to officers trying to cooperate but as we weren't following ORDERS such as "Don't scratch your arm right now!" the cops escalated and one took out a tazer. We were all white btw. and as a European I couldn't believe those cops. We calmly talked and suddenly we face a tazer? Because those authoritarian scumbags didn't want to hold a conversation with the people THEY confronted? Over a noise complaint?

Something is super wrong in the US when it comes to police. Maybe start educating them before letting them lose on society. It helps.

>>neuron+nY1
I agree that the US police in general needs desperate remedial training. My experience with them wasn't pleasant either.

I simply don't agree with the massive general violence and looting going on at the moment. That must be stopped. And police officers attempting to do so are being beaten to death. Some are also being shot while trying to prevent looting. I disagree that all police should pay for one person's crime.

>>lenkit+p02
Super late, but maybe you see this. I do not agree with the looting at all and believe these people have to be stopped and held accountable.

However, I think that the situation is so difficult, that society is incapable of finding a real helpful solution and as injustice keeps being comitted by police across the country, the emotions find a channel to break out.

How long can they violently treat citizens without consequences? The negative energy just seems to burst out here and it appears to be the natural consequence (which doesn't make the looting right, but maybe explains the negative energy a little bit).