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1. rectan+V4[view] [source] 2020-06-05 19:26:06
>>Tomte+(OP)
> But before action was taken by city leaders, Buffalo police lied about the incident. In an initial statement, the department said that a person was arrested "during a skirmish with other protesters," and that "during that skirmish involving protesters, one person was injured when he tripped and fell." The video clearly refutes the statement, showing that there was no skirmish around the elderly man, and that the officers pushed him to the ground for no justifiable reason.

The Buffalo incident offers a vivid example of why police records should be considered unreliable. Where are the "good cops" among the 20 or so in the video who had the opportunity to speak up, but in practice chose to maintain the blue wall of silence?

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2. domino+Y5[view] [source] 2020-06-05 19:31:54
>>rectan+V4
There is parallel with pilots and airplane crashes. There is a tendency for airlines to put the blame on a pilot in case of a crash, this disincentives pilots from speaking the truth. Unfortunately the 'anti cop' sentiment would have the same effect.

Imgaine how hard it is for us to admit a mistake at work which brings the website down but here someone's life is at stake.

What happens if a cop makes a mistake and causes grave injury to someone. What would be his incentive to admit mistake and possibly spend rest of his life in prison.

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3. heavys+v8[view] [source] 2020-06-05 19:42:12
>>domino+Y5
Somehow professionals under the constant threat of malpractice lawsuits and criminal/civil liability are able to operate and flourish in their industries just fine.
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4. Natsu+9a[view] [source] 2020-06-05 19:49:27
>>heavys+v8
So, we should have the cops take out liability insurance and pay damages?

That actually sounds like a pretty good idea, honestly.

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5. Ididnt+Qf[view] [source] 2020-06-05 20:17:02
>>Natsu+9a
"So, we should have the cops take out liability insurance and pay damages?"

No, they should get proper training and be held to professional standards.

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6. jonfw+gi[view] [source] 2020-06-05 20:29:22
>>Ididnt+Qf
Are you ready to double the pay of police? If you wanted to go through a lot of training and be held to high standards, you'd probably look for a more lucrative gig than being a cop
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7. camgun+7p[view] [source] 2020-06-05 21:11:44
>>jonfw+gi
Not only am I willing to double it (or more), I'm willing to drastically reduce their duties. We ask far too much of police officers in the US, we need to respect their wellbeing and start addressing root causes of issues.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RtnQ2GqBeg

[2]: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/killing-of-george-fl...

[3]: https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/06/03/457251670...

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8. Ididnt+9q[view] [source] 2020-06-05 21:17:11
>>camgun+7p
Very true. Especially the petty drug arrests they have to do are poisoning relationships between cops and citizens.
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