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1. rectan+V4[view] [source] 2020-06-05 19:26:06
>>Tomte+(OP)
> But before action was taken by city leaders, Buffalo police lied about the incident. In an initial statement, the department said that a person was arrested "during a skirmish with other protesters," and that "during that skirmish involving protesters, one person was injured when he tripped and fell." The video clearly refutes the statement, showing that there was no skirmish around the elderly man, and that the officers pushed him to the ground for no justifiable reason.

The Buffalo incident offers a vivid example of why police records should be considered unreliable. Where are the "good cops" among the 20 or so in the video who had the opportunity to speak up, but in practice chose to maintain the blue wall of silence?

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2. domino+Y5[view] [source] 2020-06-05 19:31:54
>>rectan+V4
There is parallel with pilots and airplane crashes. There is a tendency for airlines to put the blame on a pilot in case of a crash, this disincentives pilots from speaking the truth. Unfortunately the 'anti cop' sentiment would have the same effect.

Imgaine how hard it is for us to admit a mistake at work which brings the website down but here someone's life is at stake.

What happens if a cop makes a mistake and causes grave injury to someone. What would be his incentive to admit mistake and possibly spend rest of his life in prison.

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3. schoen+i8[view] [source] 2020-06-05 19:41:37
>>domino+Y5
Maybe there should be a law enforcement equivalent of

https://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/

which is something that the aviation regulators created in response to some of the dynamics you mentioned.

(I don't know how ASRS authenticates that people making reports are really pilots or aircrew.)

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4. rectan+Da[view] [source] 2020-06-05 19:51:22
>>schoen+i8
That seems like a reasonable, constructive suggestion. There certainly are structural factors and incentives which make it difficult for a police officer to actually be a "good cop" when it matters.

But self-regulation hasn't worked and isn't likely to work, precisely because those structural factors are so formidable. So instead, we turn to outside auditing in the form of cell phone video — as advocated by this article.

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