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>>pera+(OP)
I hope one day apps like Signal will be the default for everyone, not just protesters in a time of crisis.

>>matheu+X2
will only happen if phone manufactures ship them by default rather than the unsecure by default ones they ship atm.

Sounds crazy when I say it outloud...

>>senect+a3
iMessage is end to end encrypted by default. Perhaps not as strongly, but it's a good default to begin with.

>>RL_Qui+36
Key management is still centralized and controlled by Apple, so they can still MITM communications by messing with the key exchange.

iCloud backups (enabled by default) are not end-to-end encrypted.

So while it's technically E2E, in practice you get very little protection from it because it's broken by design.

I still use iMessage because of the user experience, but let's not be fooled by their misleading E2E claims; it's all just marketing BS.

>>Nextgr+j6
If both parties disable iCloud on their phones, does Apple have any way to read messages sent via iMessage?

>>ciaran+G6
We have no idea and there’s no real way even in principle for us to know.