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1. hughmu+O5[view] [source] 2020-06-04 12:40:38
>>wolfgk+(OP)
So we're just going to pretend that cities aren't going up in flames, businesses aren't being destroyed and innocent protestors, rioters and police aren't being killed?

There is an extremely blurry line between peaceful and violent protests. Unfortunately all of the chaos of recent days that the WaPo and others (Obama, etc.) seem all too eager to sweep under the rug has ruined things for everyone.

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2. diogen+cg[view] [source] 2020-06-04 13:45:08
>>hughmu+O5
The proportion of looters vs protestors is much lower than bad cops to good cops. If you are going to let a few bad apples spoil the bunch, why are you not saying the same thing about cops? If it’s about the cost, then why aren’t you complaining about the $5 trillion in looting that Congress just passed to redistribute wealth upwards? Or did you just watch a Fox News clip and get mad about what they want you to?
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3. fr2nul+kq[view] [source] 2020-06-04 14:36:03
>>diogen+cg
How do you know this? I'm not saying this is not the case. But how do you know this? I suspect that there are a lot of good police men, just like there are a lot of good protesters. How do you come to the conclusion that there are more of one than the other?
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4. mindsl+Mx[view] [source] 2020-06-04 15:04:45
>>fr2nul+kq
When a video of a cop murdering someone comes to a department's attention, they're not immediately arrested on suspicion of murder. When one cop from a group smashes a car window, the others don't arrest the perp for vandalism. When a cop shoots peaceful protestors engaging in constitutionally protected speech with flashbangs, tear gas, or rubber bullets, they're not immediately arrested for assault and battery. All of these incidents indicate that these departments are at least half full of corrupt cops, whether by individual morals or institutional policy.
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5. babyca+oK[view] [source] 2020-06-04 16:00:10
>>mindsl+Mx
And when these bad cops are protected from prosecution across the entire country, it's no longer about a single bad cop in a barrel of apples from an isolated tree. It becomes an institution encouraging bad policing, a systemic issue. And when you look at who funds the police...
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6. mindsl+sN[view] [source] 2020-06-04 16:16:50
>>babyca+oK
Rather than paint the entire country with one brush, we need to focus on individual jurisdictions. There are many police departments that are facilitating the protestors exercising their rights, speaking with protestors about their concerns, even showing support, etc. These are likely departments where if an individual cop makes some off the cuff racist remark, they're called out by their peers. We need to give credit where credit is due.
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7. mtnGoa+fU[view] [source] 2020-06-04 16:50:22
>>mindsl+sN
some of those jurisdictions only posed for photos, kneeled for a few seconds and then gased the other side. just saying.
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8. mindsl+MX[view] [source] 2020-06-04 17:11:37
>>mtnGoa+fU
I was not lauding those jurisdictions, for sure. Although if the knee-takers were individual officers being allowed to show their political opinion before being ordered to open fire on protesting Americans, then we should show some praise to those individuals. Although obviously much less praise than if they had simply refused the unlawful orders.
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