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1. Burnin+uc[view] [source] 2020-06-03 23:13:41
>>js2+(OP)
Montreal once had a 16 hour police strike, creating a natural experiment in what happens without police.

Steven Pinker describes how that went:

> "As a young teenager in proudly peaceable Canada during the romantic 1960s, I was a true believer in Bakunin's anarchism. I laughed off my parents' argument that if the government ever laid down its arms all hell would break loose. Our competing predictions were put to the test at 8:00 a.m. on October 7, 1969, when the Montreal police went on strike. By 11:20 am, the first bank was robbed. By noon, most of the downtown stores were closed because of looting. Within a few more hours, taxi drivers burned down the garage of a limousine service that competed with them for airport customers, a rooftop sniper killed a provincial police officer, rioters broke into several hotels and restaurants, and a doctor slew a burglar in his suburban home. By the end of the day, six banks had been robbed, a hundred shops had been looted, twelve fires had been set, forty carloads of storefront glass had been broken, and three million dollars in property damage had been inflicted, before city authorities had to call in the army and, of course, the Mounties to restore order. This decisive empirical test left my politics in tatters (and offered a foretaste of life as a scientist)."[16]

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2. glangd+Bt[view] [source] 2020-06-04 01:14:38
>>Burnin+uc
The thumb seems on the scale a bit with referring to "proudly peaceable Canada" - like everything in 1969 in Montreal was the picture and peace, and then out of nowhere a police strike caused mayhem.

The Wikipedia page for a sibling comment points out that Montreal already had problems: bank robberies, riots and terrorist bombings.

So if it's a 'natural experiment' it's one against a background of high levels of disorder to begin with.

I think it's also somewhat of a caricature to imagine that a total police strike is somehow indicative of what a radical reduction on police activity would look like. Most people calling for "de-policing" would draw the line at "let's not send police after bank robberies, assaults, riots, home invasions, etc".

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3. slavik+dx1[view] [source] 2020-06-04 11:36:08
>>glangd+Bt
A year later, the FLQ kidnapped the Deputy Premiere of Quebec and a British diplomat. At the request of the mayor of Montreal, the government invoked the War Measures Act, declaring martial law and deploying the Canadian Armed Forces under the direction of the Quebec provincial police.

You could hardly pick a more dangerous time or place in Canadian history.

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