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1. adjkan+K9[view] [source] 2020-06-03 05:30:39
>>novia+(OP)
This tweet has a good two minute video of some of these cases, for those who are questioning if this is "valid" as I have seen in many threads.

https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1266917228752056320

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2. ebg13+8b[view] [source] 2020-06-03 05:44:56
>>adjkan+K9
This one is from a link further down. I think it tells pretty much everything. https://twitter.com/stephtseo/status/1267680737915924480?s=0...
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3. asiach+li[view] [source] 2020-06-03 06:52:05
>>ebg13+8b
I don't see what you seem to see in that video.

I see an umbrella put way over the fence. I see a policeman grab an umbrella that was way over fence. I see then someone else reach across the fence in response to the police grabbing the umbrella. I see the police then react to that person reaching across the fence.

I don't see blame. I just see tinder, a spark, and an escalation.

I'm fully 100% for "Black Lives Matter" and 100% against police brutality and the militarization of the police. But that video is too ambiguous convince all people. It's the same with the CNN reporter. People who want to see racism see a black reporter get arrested. People who don't want to see racism see 3 people getting arrested, one black, one white, one latino? Yes, racism exists but that video is also not proof of it.

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4. ebg13+Ni[view] [source] 2020-06-03 06:55:49
>>asiach+li
> that video.

First of all, it's two videos. Watch the aerial view in the immediate reply. (If you didn't see it, you can find it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/gv0ru3/this_is_the...)

> I see a policeman grab

You see an attempted robbery resulting in the destruction of someone's private property.

> I see then someone else reach

You see a person trying to hold onto their property as they're pulled over the fence because a cop just assaulted them.

> I see the police then react

You see the police immediately start spraying and bombing and gassing, with the flimsiest excuse, an entire crowd of people who are literally just chanting.

This coordinated initiation of violence is extremely typical from the police playbook. Watch this third video from 26:30 as the filmer explains the meaning of a "posture" change when the police swap in gasmask brutes in place of the bicycle cops who were standing there before, showing that they planned to escalate from the beginning. https://www.facebook.com/omarisal/videos/10220021035848747/

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5. asiach+bw[view] [source] 2020-06-03 09:20:46
>>ebg13+Ni
The aerial video doesn't help at all. If you're being unkind to the protesters then the ground level video shows a protester shoving an umbrella in a policeman's face which is the start of the entire thing. The policeman reacts as anyone would when someone shoves something in their face, they grab/bat it away. That causes others to reach over the fence which would appear threatening and then the spray starts.

If you're assuming good intentions on the part of that protestor then the umbrella being over the fence and in the face of an officer was just an accident of being too close the fence so that their umbrella ended up in the police officer's face. The result is the same, the protester is crossing the line like the "I'm not touching you" meme. The officer has an umbrella shoved in their face and they react.

https://www.slideshare.net/Matthewthig/4-11-am-im-not-touchi...

From the officer's POV this (https://pasteboard.co/Jbm1UXn.jpg) is a protester trying to intentionally block their view or just annoy them.

I know you won't accept that interpretation as remotely valid because you've already decided there is only one correct way to see it.

I'm not placing blame and I'm not defending the police. I'm just pointing out your interpretation of what happened is just that, an interpretation. There is at least one other perfectly valid interpretation.

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6. asiach+uy[view] [source] 2020-06-03 09:47:07
>>asiach+bw
Here's another incident with 2 interpretations

https://twitter.com/EDDIFUL/status/1267338642617364481?s=20

1) The simple police brutality

2) Kid grabs policeman, policeman reacts

You can see the kid reach for the officer. The officer reacted. Whether it was actually a threat I have no idea. The officer is trying to pass. The kid effectively corners him into a wall, intentionally or not, and then reaches toward the officer. Maybe it was supposed to be a friendly tap on the upper arm but in the middle of such a situation it's not hard to believe whatever the kid reached for felt like a threat to the officer.

Again I'm not trying to defend the police but if you want people to come together, if you want that 1/2 of the nation that's on the wrong side to support your cause, then you need less ambiguous examples. Otherwise it's just easy to dismiss it.

Other than taking the kid down there is no visible brutality in that video.

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7. ebg13+J71[view] [source] 2020-06-03 14:43:27
>>asiach+uy
> Again I'm not trying to defend the police

You're doing a great job of it anyway trying to justify marching in brutes covered head to toe in armor all prepared for a gas attack and then mysteriously "reacting" to an _umbrella_ a minute later by bombing a crowd of people standing around chanting.

You're doing some heavy concern trolling here. I see you.

> The kid effectively corners him into a wall

If I push between you and the wall, you have not cornered me into the wall. The person who pushes in is responsible for being there.

> Whether it was actually a threat I have no idea

Kid has a phone in one hand and sunglasses in the other. If you have no idea then you're intentionally not paying attention.

> Other than taking the kid down there is no visible brutality

Other than the visible brutality, there is no visible brutality. Well, by _that_ definition...

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8. asiach+Np3[view] [source] 2020-06-04 05:06:50
>>ebg13+J71
I'm not trolling and dang should have banned banned your message for name calling.

There is no brutality in that video. The officers wraps his arm around the kid and pulls him to the ground slowly and safely. There is no evidence in that video the kid got a single scratch or bruise. If there is evidence of actual violence it's not in that video.

There are videos of actual violence.

https://twitter.com/vantaepedia/status/1266055700515520512

no need to use the ambiguous videos that don't actually help change minds but only preach to the choir.

Black Lives Matter!

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