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>>js2+(OP)
One of my current frustrations with American politics is how radical everything has become. The debate is now, either we don't have any police and defund them, or, we allow them to continue being completely unaccountable. Neither of those situations sound ideal.

It feels like Europe and other places have a much more reasonable and nuanced view. Police get funded, and well funded, but the job requirements are strict, and the emphasis is more about public good and safety. If there's a crime the police do exist and do show up but they also don't shoot people dead in their house at 3am.

>>jorblu+Ua
It's a guns issue, surely? Not got the exact stats but for 2019 I think police killings in the UK ~3 and US ~1000, with only a 5x difference in population. I'm a well spoken law abiding white guy and American cops frighten me.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enfo...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/national/police...

>>nmca+Pg
Let's not forget that the police themselves have their own share of fallen officers. For 2019, ~150 officers killed, out of ~700k total LEO.

https://www.odmp.org/search/year/2019

>>twyleo+ol
It seems you're overstating the case. When I click through I see causes of death like "heart attack" and "automobile crash". Other people die of those causes as well.

Policing isn't even in the top ten most dangerous jobs. Save the honors for fishermen and lumberjacks.