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>>js2+(OP)
One of my current frustrations with American politics is how radical everything has become. The debate is now, either we don't have any police and defund them, or, we allow them to continue being completely unaccountable. Neither of those situations sound ideal.

It feels like Europe and other places have a much more reasonable and nuanced view. Police get funded, and well funded, but the job requirements are strict, and the emphasis is more about public good and safety. If there's a crime the police do exist and do show up but they also don't shoot people dead in their house at 3am.

>>jorblu+Ua
It's a guns issue, surely? Not got the exact stats but for 2019 I think police killings in the UK ~3 and US ~1000, with only a 5x difference in population. I'm a well spoken law abiding white guy and American cops frighten me.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enfo...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/national/police...

>>nmca+Pg
I'm a well spoken law abiding brown guy and American police don't frighten me. Have you considered your fears are not grounded in reality? Even with the cop killings as high as they are (and they should be lower), you are much more likely to be hurt by criminal violence than violence from the police.