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1. Burnin+uc[view] [source] 2020-06-03 23:13:41
>>js2+(OP)
Montreal once had a 16 hour police strike, creating a natural experiment in what happens without police.

Steven Pinker describes how that went:

> "As a young teenager in proudly peaceable Canada during the romantic 1960s, I was a true believer in Bakunin's anarchism. I laughed off my parents' argument that if the government ever laid down its arms all hell would break loose. Our competing predictions were put to the test at 8:00 a.m. on October 7, 1969, when the Montreal police went on strike. By 11:20 am, the first bank was robbed. By noon, most of the downtown stores were closed because of looting. Within a few more hours, taxi drivers burned down the garage of a limousine service that competed with them for airport customers, a rooftop sniper killed a provincial police officer, rioters broke into several hotels and restaurants, and a doctor slew a burglar in his suburban home. By the end of the day, six banks had been robbed, a hundred shops had been looted, twelve fires had been set, forty carloads of storefront glass had been broken, and three million dollars in property damage had been inflicted, before city authorities had to call in the army and, of course, the Mounties to restore order. This decisive empirical test left my politics in tatters (and offered a foretaste of life as a scientist)."[16]

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2. flying+Vt[view] [source] 2020-06-04 01:16:53
>>Burnin+uc
All that sort of damage has also happened in plenty of situations when the police were not on strike, though... I don't think that one unusual event (an anecdote) is any indication of any larger pattern.

More to the point, though, the article doesn't suggest a complete abolition of all police; it suggests returning them to a more limited, core role.

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3. wolfga+bx[view] [source] 2020-06-04 01:48:25
>>flying+Vt
Not only that, but there were police officers on duty in the city; per Wikipedia ‘The provincial government posted 400 officers from the Sûreté du Québec to Montreal in the morning.’

If anything, this is an experiment in what happens if you unexpectedly swap the police in a city for a different set in the middle of a crisis.

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