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>>novia+(OP)
Probably a bit of a controversial opinion but in some cases I can sympathize with the police officers. The reality is that the vast majority of them likely condemn the events around George Floyd's death. They are also regular people with families, children and friends they have to provide for. And they have the exact same problems that many of us do. Their daily work involves keeping things in order, which is something I respect. That said, the first video I opened at random[1] shows a small number of people blocking a road in what looks more like a civil war scene rather than a protest. And the authorities are greeted with "F-U" and people tossing objects at them. The people in uniforms are ordinary people. Put yourself in their shoes and tell me: having all the problems you have, seeing all the destruction, which in all cases is no longer a protest, people shouting "f-u" and throwing stuff at you: You can be the most mentally stable human being but everyone has a limit. Many of those men are possibly working overtime, in extreme conditions and I bet they would much rather be with their kids or sick parents for instance. With this idea in mind, I personally can't picture myself being able to remain calm and not overstep my boundaries sooner or later.

Now putting myself in the shoes of the protesters: seeing the same destruction, destroying of properties, cars and businesses, I'll call it a day because this is no longer a protest. I'd go back home and wait for this to be taken care of and join a civilized protest once this has been taken care of. A civilized country should be able to hold a civilized protest. And having spent most of my life in eastern Europe, you can say I know a thing or two about protests. Last large protest I was a part of was in ~2013 irrc and the aftermath was very different. The night after each of those protests, everything was spotless clean, people thew all their garbage in the bins, nothing broken or destroyed. People were coming with their children and pets and being completely comfortable with it. There was a completely unrelated incident of a gas explosion at a Chinese restaurant, which burned a nearby shop. People gathered donations fo the shop owner to recover. Incidents with police? Practically none during ~3 months of daily protest. And we are talking eastern Europe - the police officers are anything but the nicest people on the planet.

[1] https://twitter.com/XruthxNthr/status/1266903223220097024

>>axegon+3a
I wonder how many people on this thread have participated in the riots, theft, and destruction of our local businesses?

I wonder how many have told a cop to go fuck themselves in the past 24 hours.

Judging by how quickly you were downvoted, I'm guessing quite a few.

>>boolea+5b
Which means everyone is missing the point. It doesn't matter if you personally participated in the riots, theft, and destruction: you are in the crowd of people which is a collective and as such, is treated as a collective. There is no other way around it. It's easy to think about it as an ordinary situation, but this is much like war. Only a handful of the population is actively engaged in a war but the damage is reflected upon everyone.

>>axegon+qc
Maybe the smartest move is for the legitimate protestors to go somewhere else, do something else, so that we can isolate those who are taking advantage of the chaos to riot and loot. The protestors are basically just cover for the rioters/looters at this point. To play devil's advocate, they play cover for each other. Protestors retain legitimacy by claiming the rioters/looters are some other people. Rioters/looters can do their work because of all the people and chaos. Protestors have the leverage of continuing violence and destruction unless their demands are met while looters get their free Jordans and Gucci.