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1. jascii+Wb[view] [source] 2020-06-02 18:48:41
>>laurex+(OP)
Disclaimer: I am a bleeding heart liberal and this may filter my observations.

I have been to a few rallies/vigils/marches lately and all incidences of violence that I have witnessed either in person or through media has been instigated by the police. As far as I know,every documented case where a formerly peaceful crowd turns into chaos has been started with police shooting pepperspray, teargas, or whatever into the crowd.

I find it really hard to not come to the conclusion that the police is desperately trying to set a narrative to justify a history of violence by escalating more violence, but please, someone, restore my faith.

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2. jwilbe+ye[view] [source] 2020-06-02 19:01:39
>>jascii+Wb
It’s the same here in Seattle as it was while I was in Berkeley during Ferguson.

People protest peacefully, and police shoot tear gas into the crowd and attack whomever they can get their hands on.

I’ll admit, the outright brutality I saw in-person in Oakland was worse than what I’ve seen here in the recent days.

In Oakland, the police would purposely corral protestors into groups and literally beat the shit out of them. I saw this in-person multiple times. In Seattle, I haven’t seen that sort of corral behavior. However, police do shoot tear gas completely unprovoked and fire rubber bullets and mace without concern.

In both places, no looting was occurring at the main scene of the protests. In both cases, numerous videos show police breaking windows themselves.

In any case, it’s all the same: in a country that parades its freedom, people of color can’t protest without the president calling for them to be roughed up, and without the police willingly complying.

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3. Spelin+0o[view] [source] 2020-06-02 19:42:33
>>jwilbe+ye
"numerous videos show police breaking windows themselves"

I don't believe you.

The umbrella guy breaking the AutoZone window with a hammer has no connection to any police department. Someone made that up on social media and people shared it because that's what people do.

The only video I know of showing officers breaking a window is out of Seattle. It shows officers responding to a burglary in progress at a Target store. The officers had to chip away at the already broken glass windows so they could safely get in. (The burglars had broken the glass to get inside.) Once inside, the responding officers found and arrested the three burglars they had come for.

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4. stonog+ep[view] [source] 2020-06-02 19:47:13
>>Spelin+0o
Here you go. https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/gv2ogk/news_ch...
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5. monoid+mx[view] [source] 2020-06-02 20:34:13
>>stonog+ep
That looks very suspicious, but if this were really a widespread technique by the police, I'm assuming there would be more than a single video taken.

I mean, we know the black bloc and similar groups engages in these tactics, they've been doing it since Seattle WTO 1999. I've seen it in person to protests I've been to (as a protester). It's very hard for me to believe that all of a sudden those people are no longer active in protests, and their place has been taken by (insert your politically-convenient group here).

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6. vb6sp6+Ny[view] [source] 2020-06-02 20:43:29
>>monoid+mx
"This doesn't happen"

(shows a video of it happening)

"This isn't widespread"

So how many videos do you need to see? 2? 10? 15???

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7. lawnch+AP[view] [source] 2020-06-02 22:21:44
>>vb6sp6+Ny
Would you find it acceptable to shoot some footage of a handful of looting/arsonist incidents and proclaiming “protesters are doing X”, just like we are complaining that “police” are doing X?

Or would you correct someone and say that isn’t happening, and when confronted with a video of someone somewhere doing a bad thing, inform them of the fact that a few cherry picked anecdotes do not represent the activity of the broader population?

You don’t have to answer.

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8. TheSpi+Q41[view] [source] 2020-06-03 00:05:44
>>lawnch+AP
Perhaps you missed the note that got passed around that said something like:

"The police have been acting, and continue to act, with impunity. This needs to change ASAP".

If you genuinely missed that, then we're letting you know this is the problem. And it's a widespread problem across many countries.

If you're intentionally being dishonest, then piss off.

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