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1. zubspa+s5[view] [source] 2020-06-02 18:24:33
>>laurex+(OP)
Here's another article uncovering the brutality of the police [1]. Some of the scenes are really inhuman [2] and I feel sorry for the poor people trying to make their voices heard.

I hope, that both sides, the protesters and police force will find a way, to exit that spiral of violence. But right now it looks like this won't happen. It's a shame.

If the state acts harder against protesters, journalists and civilian bystanders it will only fuel their anger. Leading to more violence, used by the state to issue a even worse crackdown than now. And so on and so on.

The only hope that I have is, that other politicians from all parties will stand up against that.

[1] https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2020/05/31/us-law-e...

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byk2axDVNHE

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2. steffa+Zb[view] [source] 2020-06-02 18:48:50
>>zubspa+s5
> I hope, that both sides, the protesters and police force will find a way, to exit that spiral of violence.

The two sides are massively unequal in terms of power, the onus is on the police to stop the violence.

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3. brobdi+lq[view] [source] 2020-06-02 19:51:41
>>steffa+Zb
The onus is on both. One may be able to do it better, and more conveniently, but everyone's responsible for doing their bit in ceasing and stopping violence.
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4. virapt+kw[view] [source] 2020-06-02 20:26:20
>>brobdi+lq
You understand why the protests started though, right? It's not like the protesters can say "ok, if we stop protesting now, will you please consider following the law?"

How to you expect protesters to deescalate this with absolutely nothing changing and high level LE people still not accepting any blame and pushing for military help?

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5. oh_sig+q11[view] [source] 2020-06-02 23:39:21
>>virapt+kw
You understand why US cops are so heavy handed though, right? It may be because they have to deal with a population with 3 guns per capita, where the amount of police killed per year on duty(even disregarding accidents) is more akin to a third world country than anything going on in the EU.

> and high level LE people still not accepting any blame

I don't know how you get that from OP saying that both sides need to de-escalate.

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6. virapt+p31[view] [source] 2020-06-02 23:55:31
>>oh_sig+q11
I meant that LE is largely not accepting any blame right now. That's a signal for protest not to deescalate.

But since you mention that, cops do not have to be heavy handed. Training around handling mental health helps. Training around de-escalation helps. Not being a murdering racist helps. Body cameras work.

If the guns were the main reason, we'd see similar reactions every time a group of open-carry white protesters show up on the streets. They're not treated the same way though.

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7. oh_sig+z41[view] [source] 2020-06-03 00:04:12
>>virapt+p31
> I meant that LE is largely not accepting any blame right now.

Well, multiple people have been fired and imprisoned. And investigations are on the way to probably arrest and imprison more cops.

Mental health is probably a small part of the picture of civilian-on-police violence, unless you consider anyone who considers it a good idea to kill a police officer as intrinsically mentally unhealthy.

> If the guns were so scary, we'd see similar reactions every time a group of open-carry white protesters show up on the streets

Cops aren't generally worried about open carry nuts, because they are mostly a known quantity. I'd imagine getting shot at a routine traffic stop or doing a domestic violence call is much more on the mind of your average officer than getting attacked by someone open carrying.

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