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1. just_s+k8[view] [source] 2020-06-02 01:32:41
>>oftenw+(OP)
Folks - don't be obtuse. Police commanders know exactly what will happen when they escalate with tear gas and rubber bullets.

Pro-police forces WANT mayhem. It makes people watching on TV afraid of the protests, and it changes the subject away from the widespread peaceful opposition to racist police violence.

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2. nostro+C9[view] [source] 2020-06-02 01:44:04
>>just_s+k8
Minneapolis Chief of Police: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medaria_Arradondo

Seattle Chief of Police: http://www.seattle.gov/police/about-us/about-the-department/...

St Louis Chief of Police: http://www.slmpd.org/chief_of_police.shtml

Atlanta Chief of Police: https://www.projectq.us/atlanta/atlanta_police_chief_erika_s...

Chicago Chief of Police: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brown_(police_officer)

Oakland Chief of Police: https://climaterwc.com/2019/07/17/san-mateo-police-chief-sus...

People on HN seem to have a cartoon villain view of police, so I thought I'd share a few faces of police leadership in effected communities.

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3. 8note+8e[view] [source] 2020-06-02 02:21:07
>>nostro+C9
Sure thats the Seattle police chief, but who leads the police union?

This guy: https://youtu.be/b6cJQ1XBH8M who fits the cartoon villain side of things

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4. thephy+ln[view] [source] 2020-06-02 03:42:50
>>8note+8e
I thought this exact point when I saw the parent.

There are two public faces to every department anytime an officer-involved story hits the news.

The police chief is a slick salesperson to put the department in the best light and is accountable to the mayor / city council. The union leader is the slimy salesperson who always paints the suspect/chief/mayor in the worst possible light and who constantly repeats the refrain "the job is hard", "we are only human", "followed standard department procedure", etc. There are a number of notable union leaders who are detestable caricatures of cartoon villains.

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5. thephy+QC2[view] [source] 2020-06-02 20:17:00
>>thephy+ln
After re-reading this, I think I left out some detail about the purpose of the Union leader.

They have a fiduciary responsibility to protect the union (the members and the dues). They are not accountable to or elected by the public (in their role as union leader).

That said, they don't have to be cartoonish villains, but frequently are because their role is to pull heartstrings for police officers, not for the civilian/victim in the narrative.

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