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1. monadi+Ic[view] [source] 2020-06-02 02:07:43
>>oftenw+(OP)
At some point society will realize that this “de-escalation” would be better served by social workers without guns.
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2. johnso+4R[view] [source] 2020-06-02 08:48:26
>>monadi+Ic
I don’t know my brother showed me a very uncivil and awful video of a black man trying to defend his business by telling looters to go away and being beaten and at least knocked unconcious with a pool of blood around his head. There were many other videos I saw where people stood outside their businesses with guns and their businesses didn’t seem to get looted at least. (I know it’s all anecdotal, but at least it says there are cases of the opposite being true.)
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3. monadi+EW[view] [source] 2020-06-02 09:52:06
>>johnso+4R
Sorry, what’s the connection to replacing police de-escalating with social workers de-escalating? You’ve lost me.
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4. johnso+h02[view] [source] 2020-06-02 17:16:16
>>monadi+EW
Sorry, I should do a better job at explaining why I said what I said. I'll try to do better at that next time. What I meant to imply is that non-violent forces like the social worker or the man defending his business (using pleading and non-violent force) can very easily be met with violent force. Whereas sometimes even the fear of violence is enough to stop the escalation of force. I honestly don't even know if that black man that defended his business lived. I can agree with you police need to be better at de-escalating they and their departments should be striving for that. Maybe training could help? Also at the same time I feel, and I'm not saying this is something that always happens but it's a thing that always happens under the given circumstances, when something isn't de-escalated without force (such as a failed de-escalation by a social worker or non-violent de-escalation by police) it by nature will escalate, so to prevent loss of life sometimes force can be necessary (such as what the police can do). So, leaving the police completely out of it in the first place could be dangerous to the social worker and other parties involved.
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