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1. montec+M6[view] [source] 2020-06-02 15:31:20
>>hhs+(OP)
In my city we have seen several peaceful protesters (some quite some distance away from police) be nearly killed by less lethal ammunition. Being hit in the head or neck by a rubber bullet will drop a person to the ground unconscious instantly. This means they can even hit their head again against pavement. Nobody has died yet, but they are clearly extremely dangerous.

We have also seen the use of tear gas. I don't want the police to hurt anyone, but I haven't seen any long term damage from its use.

If police are going to use force, from what I have seen, tear gas is less dangerous. It is still awful. I'd rather it not be used, but I just wanted to share what I've seen.

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2. ashton+A7[view] [source] 2020-06-02 15:35:26
>>montec+M6
Police appear to be misusing rubber bullets, possibly on purpose.

Rubber bullets are supposed to be fired at shin height, to achieve the appropriate mix of pain and risk reduction. They’re not zero risk because of ricochets, but flat, low trajectories help. It should go without saying that they should only be used when necessary, but if they must be used there is a way it should be done.

The number of people being struck in the chest and head by rubber bullets implies that the cops are aiming for the head, a gross abuse of force if true.

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3. Razeng+6f[view] [source] 2020-06-02 16:08:41
>>ashton+A7
I just learned that "rubber" bullets have a steel core:

https://old.reddit.com/r/ThingsCutInHalfPorn/comments/guy6ln...

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4. crafti+hj[view] [source] 2020-06-02 16:28:55
>>Razeng+6f
I learned that at combat training; up until then I assumed they were basically rubber paint balls with a higher velocity. We asked why we had to use chalk rounds for training (basically a 9mm pistol powder charge with a chalk bullet in front of it) instead of rubber bullets, and our combat instructor laughed and said he didn't want to see anyone blinded, unconscious, or permanently damaged, so they were a no go, even when we were wearing ballistic vests, helmets and face shields. Those chalk rounds still hurt like crazy, and would break skin through military camo uniforms; can't imagine being unloaded on with rubber bullets without protection.
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