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1. lsh123+gf[view] [source] 2020-06-02 02:30:33
>>oftenw+(OP)
Could we please stop calling “protesters” all the people looting jewelry stores, Target, Nike, etc? These are not protesters, these are looters. Police should use any means at their disposal to protect lives and property from looters and rioters.
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2. scarmi+Pi[view] [source] 2020-06-02 03:01:05
>>lsh123+gf
By the same token, can we please stop calling "police" all the people bashing in heads, punching journalists, planting evidence, instigating violence? They are not police, they are violent thugs. Protesters should use any means at their disposal to protect their own lives from violent thugs.
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3. nights+R11[view] [source] 2020-06-02 11:00:11
>>scarmi+Pi
But they literally are police--that's the difference between these two arguments. Police can be held to account through voting and policy shifts, individuals cannot without community enforcement.
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4. scarmi+Hd1[view] [source] 2020-06-02 12:53:16
>>nights+R11
Murdering people in cold blood is part of policing?

Here's the part you're missing: the protests are holding the police to account, and they're the only way available for the community to enforce basic rule of law on the police. If not for the protests, the officer(s) in question would be getting some paid time off to fund a vacation to the beach. Literally. And that's despite the community already having voted for stricter regulations by clear majorities and not getting them because white votes are counted more in our political system than black ones, and that's despite voter suppression disproportionately restricting black voters' access to the polls.

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