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1. randyr+Qv1[view] [source] 2020-06-01 23:16:06
>>mwseib+(OP)
Police brutality is a real issue. It's less clear that racial bias in policing is a statistically significant issue, however, when accounting for obvious things. If someone has numbers that tell a different story I am all ears. Here are mine when I attempted to find it for myself:

    black arrests (all crimes) a year: 2.2 million
    white arrests (all crimes) a year: 5.6 million
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-...

    black deaths by police: 4.5 per 100k
    white deaths by police: 1.5 per 100k
https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

    USA black population: 13%
    USA white population: 75%
Given a black committing an average black crime, and a white committing an avg white crime, the black person is 16% more likely to die in a police altercation. Whether or not this is statistical error or a real difference is harder to tell, but this difference is not nearly as large as most media outlets lead people to believe.

Again, If someone has numbers that tell a different story I am all ears

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2. awinde+rz1[view] [source] 2020-06-01 23:42:34
>>randyr+Qv1
Wait, what’s your math here? Black deaths by police are 4.5/100k and white is 1.5, that’s a 3x or 300% difference.
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3. elmoml+CA1[view] [source] 2020-06-01 23:51:15
>>awinde+rz1
I think it's "30%" (it's not). If p (pct population) is scaled to units of "people", and m as crimes/year and k as (deaths in custody) / (100k people), we want to compare the magnitudes of p * (k / m) for the two groups. Plugging the numbers in as cited, and putting the African American cohort over the White cohort, we get 1.3, i.e. "30%" increase in probability of dying during a police interaction if black.

But as has already been pointed out, it's way more than 30%. The numbers given in the original comment hide the real impact of the bias, since "arrest" was implicitly being treated as a fair event (which it isn't; as just one example, blacks in particular are many times more likely to be subject to a traffic stop than whites, while they tend to have contraband on their possession less often [1][2][3][4]).

Moreover, this isn't just about deaths in police custody. This is about inhumane and repressive policing practices that perpetuate a longstanding effort to deprive blacks of meaningful political power [5]. It is both foolish and cruel to see an entire population struggling and assume it's because they are bad people.

[1] https://sfdistrictattorney.org/sites/default/files/Document/... [2] https://chicagopatf.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/PATF_Fina... [3] https://www.aclu-il.org/en/press-releases/traffic-stop-data-... [4] https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/25/us/racial-disparity-traff... [5] See Michelle Alexander's book, The New Jim Crow

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