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1. frogpe+Op[view] [source] 2020-06-01 17:17:57
>>mwseib+(OP)
I agree with almost everything Mr. Obama wrote.

But...

I feel the complete opposite of “hopeful” when I see these riots, when I see people so angry they will destroy their own cities.

Because it accomplishes the exact opposite of they hope it will accomplish:

1. Those who side with heavy-handed police tactics feel vindicated for their prejudices.

2. The communities of those who feel unheard and left out are torn down even further.

3. Every civilian-police officer interaction post-riot will be even more contentious, thus making violence more likely.

Don’t get me wrong I believe there are corrupt officials and police officers. Obama is right about how to fix that on the local level.

About the actual problem being protested: One of the themes of the protests is to say the names[1] of those have been killed at the hands of the police. Just using common sense tells me that if you can name off the victims it means the problem isn’t widespread or systemic across the country.

Try naming the victims of rape or suicide or even murder.

Name the police officers killed in the line of duty in the last ten years. You can’t there’s way too many.

George Floyd should not have died. And the police officer(s) who contributed to his death should be held 100% accountable for their actions.

But there will always be unnecessary deaths in law enforcement situations. Rioting and burning down your own city will not make that fact go away.

So, I feel a loss of hope when I see these riots. To me, it means we are so far from working together to fix the problems that can be fixed. It creates a bigger divide in our society.

[1]https://www.npr.org/2020/05/29/865261916/a-decade-of-watchin...

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2. lazyjo+M31[view] [source] 2020-06-01 20:36:36
>>frogpe+Op
> I feel the complete opposite of “hopeful” when I see these riots, when I see people so angry they will destroy their own cities.

I am confident that this reality check for people who are somewhat blindly supporting their ideologies will benefit everyone. Beginning with the wealthier people who supported these protests and are now seeing their gated communities burn and their "progressive" newspapers destroyed.

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3. whatsh+ia1[view] [source] 2020-06-01 21:12:07
>>lazyjo+M31
Are the gated communities burning or the high-density poor city blocks?
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4. lazyjo+Dq1[view] [source] 2020-06-01 22:40:09
>>whatsh+ia1
Looks like both, but poor areas first:

https://twitter.com/ChrisPalmerNBA/status/126741517304573542...

https://thepostmillennial.com/journalist-supported-protester...

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