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>>mnm1+(OP)
Understand that many have been predicting that some amount of reform will come so Police Unions have been pushing legislatures for indemnification within contracts negotiated.

This in effect may still shadow some of the abusive officers but it also will mean pay outs will be from the very community they were abusing people with in.

Simply put, public employee unions within the United States have an exaggerated affect on politics at local, city, and state levels. This includes both police and teachers and in many cases fire. besides bankrupting communities with excessive pension and benefits plans; in fact these were some of the golden plans mentioned as being a limiting factor to what the ACA encompassed and the House only recently tucked a provision into law that passed which removed all consideration of these plans from future ACA fudning; they are leading to bankruptcy issues for some localities. On the teacher front a three year veteran is near immune to firing in NYC if not all of NY state.

It really comes down to this, the laws have to change. Both QI as well as the legality of these particular type of unions which do not serve the same purpose unions in corporations do. They are bleeding America dry and not just in money. Be very watchful for the House to attempt to bailout all these public sector employee pensions in the near future. [0][1][2][3][4][5]

[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2018/10/26/ill...

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/business/dealbook/coronav...

[2] https://www.chicagobusiness.com/html-page/848696

[3] https://www.chicagobusiness.com/greg-hinz-politics/pritzker-...

[4] https://www.heritage.org/jobs-and-labor/commentary/public-he...

[5] https://www.ai-cio.com/news/10-billion-illinois-pension-bail...

>>Shivet+tm
While I tend to agree with everything you said and would further say that there's a nefarious nexus between buying off public unions with pension agreements states can not afford to pay, a half-step in the right direction was outlined by Ilya Somin and Johnathan Adler recently [0]:

"State and local governments should consider banning police unionization, or at least curbing unions' powers by, for example, eliminating disciplinary issues from the list of matters that are subject to collective bargaining. Whatever the merits of public-sector unions in other contexts, they create too much of a conflict of of interest in the case of employees who often literally wield the power of life and death over civilians."

[0] https://reason.com/2020/05/31/how-to-curb-police-abuses-and-...