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1. Negati+Q7[view] [source] 2020-04-17 16:49:04
>>claude+(OP)
The treatment of warehouse workers and of people with different non office jobs is a strong reason why I will never work at a place like Amazon or Walmart.

Glad to see some people sticking up for each other in these times especially.

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2. txcwpa+Gc[view] [source] 2020-04-17 17:15:00
>>Negati+Q7
Amazon warehouse workers get $17/hr starting wage (and a full 2x ($34/hr!!) overtime), with no experience/education needed and almost no barrier to getting the job (except physical capability to lift a box), as well as the best health insurance I've ever heard of entry-level manual laborers getting, as well as education budgets to be used on any higher level education they want.

Obviously warehouse work isn't glamorous and they are under a lot of pressure and there's nothing wrong with increased scrutiny on how they are treated, but it's also getting exhausting when people act like Amazon FC workers are treated like slaves.

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3. refurb+Im[view] [source] 2020-04-17 18:25:22
>>txcwpa+Gc
I worked in a warehouse picking and packing orders when I was in college.

It was a fantastic job relative to my other options. I got paid 2x minimum wage and lots of overtime. The job rocked compared to the retail jobs that were my other option.

It's pretty easy to shit on a job like that, and the pay, when you're making well into 6 figures and have a comfy office job with free snacks.

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4. claude+xo[view] [source] 2020-04-17 18:40:06
>>refurb+Im
This is just bait-and-switch nonsense.

People aren’t shitting on the jobs themselves or the people doing them. They don’t like how Amazon, the company, is treating these workers and the HQ employees acting in solidarity with them.

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5. dang+JA[view] [source] 2020-04-17 19:56:33
>>claude+xo
You've been using HN primarily for political and ideological battle. That's not what the site is for, and we ban accounts that do this, because it destroys the curious conversation that the site is for. We've warned and asked you about this several times already, and you've continued to do it.

Some political overlap is inevitable [1], but political battle will soon take the site over if we allow it to, so we don't allow it to. The reference to fire in the word 'flamewar' is not by accident. These things consume and destroy an internet forum the way that fire does.

It isn't that the issues you're posting about aren't important. On the contrary, they're more important than most of what gets discussed here, like someone's basketball hoop side project, for example, currently on the front page [2].

The issue is the kind of site Hacker News is trying to be. We're trying to be a site for intellectual curiosity [3]. That means a place where smaller, more obscure, more delicate topics get a chance to flourish. It's not possible to be both that and a forum where people bash their enemies about current affairs.

If you want further explanation about how we handle this on HN and why, I've written about it extensively—see [1] and [4]. In the meantime, you're contributing (unintentionally, I realize) to destroying this place for its intended purpose, and we need you to stop doing that.

[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22898653

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

[4] https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

p.s. I flagged your comment for a different reason: the first sentence breaks the site guideline against name-calling: When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."

Other of your recent comments have been devolving into the flamewar style also. That tends to be what happens when people use the site primarily to fight political battles.

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