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1. elicas+z2[view] [source] 2020-03-30 17:20:39
>>onewho+(OP)
Here are their demands: https://medium.com/@GigWorkersCollective/instacart-emergency...

- Safety precautions at no cost to workers — PPE (at minimum hand sanitizer, disinfectant wipes/sprays and soap).

- Hazard pay — an extra $5 per order and defaulting the in-app tip amount to at least 10% of the order total.

- An extension and expansion of pay for workers impacted by COVID-19 — anyone who has a doctor’s note for either a preexisting condition that’s a known risk factor or requiring a self-quarantine.

- The deadline to qualify for these benefits must be extended beyond April 8th.

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2. cryosh+p8[view] [source] 2020-03-30 17:52:11
>>elicas+z2
honestly, i'm surprised that their demands are so few and so modest. i was expecting significantly higher numbers for the hazard pay portion of their demands.

i can't understand what might prevent amazon and instacart from assenting to these demands as soon as they have the logistical ability to provide the necessary items to their staff.

the national situation isn't permissive of corporations dragging their feet when essential services are down at the moment.

on the other hand, workers treated to a hopefully quick victory will not forget this when the pandemic ends. if we're lucky, the balance of power will shift to their favor.

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3. hogFea+sj[view] [source] 2020-03-30 18:54:36
>>cryosh+p8
This is what inflation looks like. If this continues, the US is going to be in a world of hurt (if workers demand more, guess what is happening prices). Inflation would utterly ravage the economy right now.

Just generally too: if Amazon announced they were hiking prices 50% overnight, how would you react? This move is pretty scummy.

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4. munk-a+Sk[view] [source] 2020-03-30 19:02:05
>>hogFea+sj
Sorry - can you clarify if the workers demanding PPE is the portion you're calling scummy? Or the modest hazard pay?
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5. hogFea+xn[view] [source] 2020-03-30 19:16:30
>>munk-a+Sk
Er no. It is waiting for a pandemic, and then removing your labour to demand a significant wage hike (I have no idea how this will work out but it is clearly significantly beyond 20%+..."modest" is not an accurate description). There are likely vulnerable people who rely on this service to feed themselves, removing their food so you can make a quick buck is pretty scummy.

Again, how would you feel about Amazon hiking the price of hand sanitizer 50%?

It will be great to see this play out though. I live somewhere (unf) that had unions running govt for a period of decades. The US never really had this so is under the illusion that this kind of thing achieves it aims. It doesn't. What happens is most of these people don't have jobs anymore, you have to hike interest rates so most people lose their homes (and bye bye, VC funding...that will just stop overnight...I would guess the majority of the people on here will lose their jobs, and modify their opinions too late), and the price of food starts increasing daily.

And btw, this should be obvious but apparently isn't, this is going to go on for at least a year. At some point, people are going to have to learn how to go about their daily life without infecting other people. The alternative is: most of these jobs stop existing, and the economy shrinks significantly (10%+). Lockdown and people deciding they need "hazard pay" to do their normal job isn't a permanent solution (central banks will be watching this closely and will be ready to hike rates as soon as it starts).

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6. saagar+fu[view] [source] 2020-03-30 19:58:42
>>hogFea+xn
They're demanding a wage hike because they're literally being exposed to the virus…
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7. hogFea+Ru[view] [source] 2020-03-30 20:03:02
>>saagar+fu
Yes, everyone will be exposed to the virus.

As I specifically mentioned: this is going to last for a year (probably more). Everyone is going to have to learn how to continue doing their job with that.

There is no other option: the govt doesn't have enough money, business doesn't have enough money, consumers don't have enough money...everyone is going to have to do their job with this happening.

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8. saagar+pv[view] [source] 2020-03-30 20:07:07
>>hogFea+Ru
> Yes, everyone will be exposed to the virus.

Not equally. You can't possibly be saying that someone who is able to completely self-isolate by working at home is in the same position as the person who is out grabbing groceries?

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