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1. elicas+z2[view] [source] 2020-03-30 17:20:39
>>onewho+(OP)
Here are their demands: https://medium.com/@GigWorkersCollective/instacart-emergency...

- Safety precautions at no cost to workers — PPE (at minimum hand sanitizer, disinfectant wipes/sprays and soap).

- Hazard pay — an extra $5 per order and defaulting the in-app tip amount to at least 10% of the order total.

- An extension and expansion of pay for workers impacted by COVID-19 — anyone who has a doctor’s note for either a preexisting condition that’s a known risk factor or requiring a self-quarantine.

- The deadline to qualify for these benefits must be extended beyond April 8th.

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2. TAForO+c4[view] [source] 2020-03-30 17:31:04
>>elicas+z2
> defaulting the in-app tip amount to at least 10% of the order total.

There was controversy in the past with DoorDash effectively pocketing the tips (https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/dc-attorney-gene...) which makes me wary about tipping in these apps -- are InstaCart and Amazon doing the same?

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3. cjhopm+3c[view] [source] 2020-03-30 18:12:30
>>TAForO+c4
That controversy never made sense to me. Most restaurants in the US "effectively pocket the tips" in the same way. In fact, any servers that are being paid roughly minimum wage up to minimum wage + $5 could have their tips pocketed in the same way.

Here's a question for people who were so upset by this. Let's say you have a bunch of tipped employees that you directly pay $10/hour and with tips they average $20/hour. You have two problems though, (1) your employees complain that during some shifts they are making barely over their base pay and (2) potential new hires are worried that they won't make as much in tips as you say current employees make. The question is: would it be taking advantage of those employees to change the employment to include a guaranteed $15/hour minimum, for any shift where they make less than that you'd pay them extra to hit the minimum?

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4. Archio+Be[view] [source] 2020-03-30 18:28:20
>>cjhopm+3c
It blows my mind how many people don't understand why what DoorDash did was bad.

The comparison to DoorDash isn't table service in a restaurant, it's ordering food for delivery to your house and then giving cash to the driver. Where does that cash go? The driver's pocket. That process & the cultural understanding of it has literally been around as long as the concept of tipping.

Here's the real question that answers why people are "upset". If you did a poll of 100 people ordering on DoorDash, and asked them "when you tip on your order, where does the money go", what do you think people would say? 99/100 of them would ABSOLUTELY say "to the driver" and that is everything that is wrong with what DoorDash did. I struggle to engage sincerely in argument with anyone claiming otherwise.

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5. cjhopm+Af[view] [source] 2020-03-30 18:34:04
>>Archio+Be
> If you did a poll of 100 people ordering on DoorDash, and asked them "when you tip on your order, where does the money go", what do you think people would say? 99/100 of them would ABSOLUTELY say "to the driver" and that is everything that is wrong with what DoorDash did.

How is that different from servers in a restaurant? If you asked that question of people who give a tip to their servers at a restaurant they would also say that that money goes to their server, despite the fact that the federally mandated earnings guarantee (assuming the restaurant doesn't have its own higher one) means that that money, effectively, might just be going to the restaurant.

> it's ordering food for delivery to your house and then giving cash to the driver

And would you be upset if Domino's gave an earnings guarantee to their drivers?

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