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1. pferde+T2[view] [source] 2019-11-28 11:54:39
>>fghtr+(OP)
"Trust in closed non-auditable complex computer systems is something everyone has learned the hard way we should not have. The news is full each day of zero day bugs and exploits throughout the stack–from applications to operating systems and even down to the very silicon the whole stuff runs on."

If only. I suspect that only tech enthusiasts are aware of these issues. In the meantime, non-technical people only give you weird disbelieving looks when you mention this to them, and then continue ignoring it.

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2. teddyh+17[view] [source] 2019-11-28 12:35:19
>>pferde+T2
> In the meantime, non-technical people only give you weird disbelieving looks when you mention this to them, and then continue ignoring it.

It’s psychological. People can’t believe things which would make it too hard for them to stay the person they currently are. It’s almost impossible for anyone to do anything but ignore and repress such information. If you ask them later about it, they probably would deny even hearing it or having the conversation, because they wouldn’t actually remember it.

Ask anyone who tried to convince a sweeping societal change based on logical arguments. See what happened to Ignaz Semmelweis. You simply can’t convince people of hard things with logic.

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3. paperm+Cm[view] [source] 2019-11-28 14:58:20
>>teddyh+17
Have you ever assumed it's not some weird psychological effect but rather that people aren't interested enough in technology? It's like trying to preach GPL to the average programmer; who cares really?
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4. gimmeT+sv[view] [source] 2019-11-28 16:12:09
>>paperm+Cm
For real, basically going straight to "their weak human-lizard brains can't handle the weight of reality bearing down on them" seems borderline comically presumptuous.
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5. teddyh+jL[view] [source] 2019-11-28 18:27:56
>>gimmeT+sv
Who said anything about “their” or “them”? I spoke about people, and I meant everybody, including myself. We, human beings, can’t make logical decisions. The most we can hope for is to stop ourselves from making illogical ones, by forcing ourselves to logically rationalize our decisions after the fact. However, rationalizations are tricky things, and almost anything can be rationalized to seem reasonable. But it’s the best we have.
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6. cridde+eR[view] [source] 2019-11-28 19:32:39
>>teddyh+jL
Why is buying an iPhone or Pixel not logical? They work great and they are affordable (if you keep it 3 years they will cost you about $1 / day for the hardware).

If you want to run software that is only on Android or iOS, then buying a Linux phone would be illogical, no?

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7. teddyh+o41[view] [source] 2019-11-28 22:01:33
>>cridde+eR
> Why is buying an iPhone or Pixel not logical?

You seem to misunderstand me. No decision we make is made logically – not a decision to buy a Librem 5, nor a decision to buy an iPhone or an Android-based phone. There may be one or several logical reasons for one or the other decision, but this is at most a tiny factor.

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