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1. Mizza+B1[view] [source] 2019-08-08 10:11:54
>>lordna+(OP)
Shout out to dang! You're doing a great job! Thank you!

Strict moderation is the reason HN is the only reasonable discussion forum remaining on the internet. I wish good moderation was a skill that more people learned - would you ever be interested in writing a guide or teaching a class on moderation?

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2. amrrs+23[view] [source] 2019-08-08 10:30:51
>>Mizza+B1
Is it just Strict moderation or Members with a common goal of making this place a good / fair place?
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3. cmroan+1d[view] [source] 2019-08-08 12:29:22
>>amrrs+23
From the article, quoting @dang:

What does seem to work better is personal interaction, over and over and over again, with individual users. That, case by case by case, seems to move the needle. But it’s very slow.”

I think the guidelines are a great way of encouraging us all to be more thoughtful to others comments, and have noticed a difference in the way I might comment HN.

Often I kill my comment before I actually click "Reply", especially if I know my comment will be too divisive, or if it doesn't add to the quality of previous comments.

Sometimes I upvote a comment because it helped me question/ change a personal dogmatic view.

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4. crafty+rK[view] [source] 2019-08-08 16:24:30
>>cmroan+1d
> I think the guidelines are a great way of encouraging us all to be more thoughtful to others comments, and have noticed a difference in the way I might comment HN.

The guidelines are somewhat of a joke, and are only followed (even by mods) when it is convenient to do so.

For example, I've been repremanded in the past by our supreme leader dang for posting comments like "do you have a source for that?", because he assumed it was too hostile while he completely ignored his own 'hacker' 'news' guideline of 'assume good faith' (I was literally asking someone to source the information/argument they posted here.. but hey good job on completely derailing that discussion dang!)

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5. dang+Mn1[view] [source] 2019-08-08 20:31:08
>>crafty+rK
Where did I do that?
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6. cmroan+QX1[view] [source] 2019-08-09 01:34:53
>>dang+Mn1
Ironically, the source of said admonishment wasn't forthcoming, by GP...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19984428

> Ok, but "got any sources for that?" is a rather unsubstantive contribution, and then going on tilt about getting downvoted breaks the site guidelines outright. Would you mind raising the signal/noise ratio of what you post here?

It seems the attempt to correct a low "signal / noise ratio", in this instance, seems to be back firing.

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7. celtic+B13[view] [source] 2019-08-09 14:32:45
>>cmroan+QX1
I'm not sure what you mean, the link you posted showed itself to be 100% accurate with the claim.
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8. dang+GK3[view] [source] 2019-08-09 19:18:17
>>celtic+B13
The issue in that case was more the added bit about downvotes, which broke the site guidelines.
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9. celtic+7W3[view] [source] 2019-08-09 20:54:52
>>dang+GK3
The claim of the other poster was accurate. The question of whether you were being fair or not doesn't change that.
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10. dang+4k4[view] [source] 2019-08-10 01:55:21
>>celtic+7W3
It wasn't accurate. They mentioned the lesser part of why I moderated the comment and omitted the greater part, which is what most people do when telling a story about how we suppressed them unfairly. That's presumably why such stories never come with links, which would allow readers to make up their own minds about what happened.
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11. crafty+Gk5[view] [source] 2019-08-10 17:58:40
>>dang+4k4
> That's presumably why such stories never come with links

No, I didn't include a link because I was posting from my phone, and "hacker" "news" doesn't include a sane way to search through thread history for specific comments. I'm glad someone else went through the trouble.

But hey, you're free to continue to not assume good faith, right?

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12. dang+8o5[view] [source] 2019-08-10 18:37:34
>>crafty+Gk5
I said most people and presumably as a way of not jumping to that conclusion about you. The pattern in general is very consistent. But I can see how it would be annoying to read that, if your preference really was to provide a link.
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