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1. chias+7b1[view] [source] 2019-07-15 00:58:09
>>monort+(OP)
Quoting astrocat from the previous thread:

PSA: Watch in an private/incognito tab/window. If you are currently logged into your google account, this WILL pollute your watched history: https://www.youtube.com/feed/history

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2. human2+mh1[view] [source] 2019-07-15 02:32:22
>>chias+7b1
Why would someone who is concerned about their watch history have watch history enabled at all?
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3. licebm+hi1[view] [source] 2019-07-15 02:47:12
>>human2+mh1
Some like me actually appreciate the youtube recomendations based on the previously watched content, but need to be extra careful when watching some kind of content that is likely to be weighted a lot by "power users". Example, I do not follow videogames, but I do enjoy watching speedruns of old games ocassionally, so I need to watch it on incognito mode so I won't have my recommendations flooded with videogame videos.
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4. gryffi+vj1[view] [source] 2019-07-15 03:05:41
>>licebm+hi1
Essentially with all that data, YouTube still hold a bad recommendation engine.
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5. Negati+8k1[view] [source] 2019-07-15 03:15:02
>>gryffi+vj1
Or potentially the recommendations are tuned more towards ad revenue than your personal interests?
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6. Applej+XE1[view] [source] 2019-07-15 09:04:53
>>Negati+8k1
Or otherwise paid for (which I think still counts as 'ads'), or tuned towards engagement.

I think quite a lot has to do with machine learning working out that if you panic the human animal they pay attention to threats, and therefore to maximize engagement 'if it bleeds, it leads' (old newspaper maxim). Newspaper editors can (and might not) automatically apply a social-benefit heuristic or sense of social shame (not wanting to be a 'muckraker' or troublemaker), and machine learning may not even start with such a concept.

If engagement was maximized by turning viewers into cannibalistic humanoid underground dwellers (CHUDs), machine learning would simply make note of that and run as hard as it could in that direction, since it doesn't have a larger context in mind unless programmed to do so.

(Such a larger context is actually sort of controversial: lot of people demonize the very concept of social justice, and without it you get these hacks to maximize engagement by tapping into really unmanageable human/animal behaviors)

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