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1. jpdus+ew[view] [source] 2019-03-11 19:18:50
>>gdb+(OP)
Wow. Screw non-profit, we want to get rich.

Sorry guys, but before you were probably able to get talent which is not (primarily) motivated by money. Now you are just another AI startup. If the cap would be 2x, it could still make sense. But 100x times? That's laughable! And the split board, made up of friends and closely connected people smells like "greenwashing" as well. Don't get me wrong, it's totally ok to be an AI startup. You just shouldn't pretend to be a non-profit then...

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2. Judgme+ZB[view] [source] 2019-03-11 20:06:21
>>jpdus+ew
I agree, this sounds disappointing to me as well. My issue is how they're positioning themselves, which is basically a hyper-growth startup where you can get rich (but only 100x richer, because we're not greedy like other startups) but we're also a non-profit here to benefit humanity so don't tax us like those evil corporations. What really bothers me though is I don't know if they honestly believe what they're saying or if it's just a marketing ploy, because honestly it's so much worse if they're deluding themselves.
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3. gdb+nD[view] [source] 2019-03-11 20:14:53
>>Judgme+ZB
Any returns from OpenAI LP are subject to taxes!
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4. Judgme+QH[view] [source] 2019-03-11 20:47:03
>>gdb+nD
First of all, thank you for taking the time to respond to people criticizing this announcement.

I just feel like you're trying to have the best of both worlds. You want the hypergrowth startup that attracts talent and investors, but you also want the mission statement for people that aren't motivated by money. I suspect trying to maintain this middle ground will be an incredibly damaging factor moving forward, as the people who are purely profit driven will look elsewhere and the people who are truly mission driven will also look elsewhere.

I fully appreciate how challenging these things can be and that making these decisions aren't trivial and obviously you're trying to do something different...but I really think you're taking the wrong step here. But because you will see short term gains from all the extra initial investment you won't realize it for years until it's too late and the culture has permanently shifted.

That said, while my trust has somewhat eroded (also because you wouldn't release details of your model recently), I still wish you luck in your mission.

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5. gdb+dP[view] [source] 2019-03-11 21:39:05
>>Judgme+QH
Thanks for the thoughtful reply, it's much appreciated.

> you also want the mission statement for people that aren't motivated by money

I wouldn't agree with this — we want people who are motivated by AGI going well, and don't want to capture all of its unprecedentedly large value for themselves. We think it's a strong point that OpenAI LP aligns individuals' success with success of the mission (and if the two conflict, the mission wins).

We also think it's very important not to release technology we think might be harmful, as we wrote in the Charter: https://openai.com/charter/#cooperativeorientation. There was a polarized response, but I'd rather err on the side of caution.

Would love people who think like that to apply: https://openai.com/jobs

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