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>>jashke+(OP)
Rich Hickey has given so much to the world of software and systems design. The value exchange has most likely not been reciprocal. Nor has it been sufficiently respectful, based on this message. People like Rich that give so much are rare. And people that understand how to respectfully recognize that seem to be becoming more rare.

Of course, one can remember that life is not fair, and people are often shitty even without being conscious of it, and that Rich has freely chosen to pursue this path.

But this leads me to a few questions: If you agree with what I have written above, and what Rich has written in this message, then how can we tip the scales just a little bit further towards respect and reciprocation? What kind of gestures, gifts, and generosities do you think are appropriate? What improved efforts to educate consumers of open source software would be effective? Further still, what kind of culture do we want?

>>concep+b6
maybe a "c-list" amendment to the licence terms?

Like "everyone can freely use and modify this, except the people listed in appendix C, who are specifically prohibited from using any part of this code for any purpose whatsoever".

If you get too shitty at the maintainers, you get added to the C-list, and get to take your shitty attitude somewhere else...

>>marcus+NM
Petty.

>>villag+kv4
yeah, I get that. But in any other area of life, if someone is being a complete dick to you, then you can cut them out of your life. Why can't open source maintainer?

>>marcus+Uu9
It’s a bad idea to get into pissing matches with shitty people. It’s bad for your mental health and it makes you look like a child. Ban toxic people from the mailing lists, I am all for that, but stop giving them drama and attention.

>>villag+1na
fair point