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>>jashke+(OP)
Though Rich is right, it pains me to read this because it is indicative of some disputes in the clojure community. I might be mistaken, but it seems that Rich is reacting to Chas Emericks' twitter post (https://twitter.com/cemerick/status/1067111260611850240). In his comments he has stated: "Finally, from a practical perspective, my core-level contributions always came from some source of pressing need in an actual, present, needs-to-work project. If I know a problem isn't going to be triaged for months and solved for years, then I'm out."

So this is not some grieving random person from crowd - Chas is a person whose libraries and contributions I value tremendously and he certainly made LOTS of contributions to clojure OSS landscape for free and out of his good will as well. So ultimately this feels like your parents are arguing (which is never a good thing) - you like them both and you just want the arguing to stop and you just want everybody to live together in harmony. But here you go, Chas has moved away from clojure now. And I have to say I am very sorry to see him go.

>>newcro+it
I don’t know this person but there’s a fork button on github. “Pressing need” —> fork

Seems to be an ego thing.

>>beders+qF
The you have to maintain your own fork. And keep up with changes upstream. And reconcile the two forks. And... And...

I'm not even mentioning the potential split in the community.

>>dmitri+JG
You can fork, fix the issue, and issue a pull request and/or start a discussion about the issue and potential fix. That is the core of open source - not demand that others fix the underlying issue for your problem.

>>hvidga+FI
How is this different from having a pull request that will go unmerged for potentially years? You still need to maintain your fork etc.

>>dmitri+YJ
So it’s worth it for you to have other people fix your problem for you (for free!), but not for you to do it yourself?

>>Aeolun+WP
No, he's saying a person who is thinking about results for the Clojure community wouldn't take things that way. Not everyone wishes to fork the community. Politicians step down from issues just because the timing is wrong and would be factious, not because the issue is wrong.

Also the person in question is also a well-received volunteer, which is why this is getting traction to begin with, which is why Rich Hickey would even take the time to tell someone that they aren't worth the time of the very response they're reading.