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1. svembu+h3[view] [source] 2018-09-24 18:21:27
>>achyne+(OP)
Zoho CEO here.

Our domain was abruptly blocked by our registrar this morning. Our NOC team and myself tried to get in touch with them and they tell us "Contact our legal". Even I could not get in touch with anyone beyond their phone operator. The domain was restored, but as DNS takes time to restore, we are still facing issues. They later claimed there were abuse complaints about Zoho.com emails (which is our personal email service with millions of free and paid users). We received a total of 3 complaints from them and two of them have been acted upon and one is under investigation.

Once we dig our way out of this, we will find ways make sure no one takes down our domain again this way.

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2. belorn+wh[view] [source] 2018-09-24 19:54:42
>>svembu+h3
If you have 40M users I suspect the annual cost from the registrar is very small part of the budget. Get a registrar where you don't have to deal with a phone operator.

I work in this industry and it's a very clear separation between bulk registrars and those that maintain fewer but high value domain names. The latter usually give you a personal contact person to call and work proactively to deal with threats to companies' domain names and trade marks. I don't think I have ever heard of a domain being abruptly suspended by such a registrar.

The cost is usually 5x-10x that of the cheapest registrars so there is naturally a balance to be struck, and as I work in this industry I might be a bit biased. However the damage when waiting on the TTL when registries update NS records sounds very substantial when they first suspend and later restore a domain name in what sound as a very reckless behavior.

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3. svembu+hm[view] [source] 2018-09-24 20:36:10
>>belorn+wh
Yes, that is good advice. We are reviewing all our processes about domain registries right now. Major lesson learned, and I would encourage other companies to think this through and learn from our experience today.
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4. ethanw+5K[view] [source] 2018-09-25 00:31:11
>>svembu+hm
I learned this the hard way just a few months ago with Namecheap. Those guys dumped all of my personal information to some people (my name, address, phone number, etc.). I have kids in my home and all they offered me was $100 in Namecheap credit, which I didn't accept out of principle. I spoke with a lawyer and the privacy laws in the U.S. seem to make it not even worth going after them. Registrars basically can do what they want and it's hard to hold them accountable.
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5. Someth+FS[view] [source] 2018-09-25 02:44:22
>>ethanw+5K
What people? Why are you scared of them? Should I be worried, as I have domains at namecheap.
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6. tomcam+KT[view] [source] 2018-09-25 02:59:07
>>Someth+FS
I’m in the same position and would love to hear more as well
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7. highcl+ms1[view] [source] 2018-09-25 11:37:43
>>tomcam+KT
See my comment above.

I repeat don't use namecheap for any meaningful business, especially anything that is "enterprise"

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