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1. abraae+K2[view] [source] 2018-05-18 08:32:21
>>grabeh+(OP)
This doesn't consider some factors that dictate how strong any company will experience their firehose of GDPR requests to be:

- how incentivised people are to make GDPR subject access requests of the company (how angry, confused, hostile curious they are)

- how easy it is for them to make requests (entirely manual vs. online service)

- wildcard factors (internet flash mobs bent on vengeance against a corporate)

There are also possible business models that might incentivize technology players to deliberately ramp up GDPR requests.

For example, unsuccessful candidates applying for a job at a company could forward their rejection email to a bot. The bot parses the details and fires a GDPR access request in to the HR department. The candidate gets back a formatted dump by email of all sorts of recruitment data, including interview notes, etc. There are obvious ways to monetise a service like this, hence incentive for someone to do it. Recruitment at a large company means engaging with thousands of people and then rejecting them. It is natural for people to have bruised feelings, and also to be curious about why they were not hired. A GDPR button lets them indulge their curiousity and start digging in to interview notes etc.

Naturally GDPR requests like this won't flood a company on the first day of GDPR. But the internet is a turbulent place.

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2. Anabee+U2[view] [source] 2018-05-18 08:34:40
>>abraae+K2
I agree, and there seems to be a lack of conversation around this! Next week could be ground-zero for all sorts of unintended consequences. Especially, a flashmob of GDPR requests could sink a company.
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3. phelev+o71[view] [source] 2018-05-18 18:31:23
>>Anabee+U2
I was thinking a solid new business plan is to register gdpr.me (or whatever) and offer a service. $40, fill out a form, and I will send a GDPR request to every company in the world on your behalf. The data coming back is then offered back to you with the ability to create further requests (deletion for example) selectively or in full.

This seem explicitly allowed for in the law.

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4. jacque+9b1[view] [source] 2018-05-18 18:58:59
>>phelev+o71
(1) the service is not explicitly allowed for because data subjects (and not data processors acting on their behalf) would be the ones to file such requests.

(2) you would be filing a lot of requests to companies that have no data in the first place and which you could reasonably have known about had you queried the data subject.

I see such a service as acting in bad faith and would file a complaint against you and your service if such a frivolous request would land in my inbox. Better hold on to the $40, you might need to spend them on a lawyer.

But kudos for trying to see the GDPR as an opportunity, now try to do so in a more constructive way. And - funny - you would be mailing yourself since you would be sure to hold PII on the party making the request in order to be able to authenticate the request as being a genuine one, which in turn would make you required to be in compliance.

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5. phelev+WC1[view] [source] 2018-05-18 23:31:25
>>jacque+9b1
I would argue there are several sections in the GDPR that appear to allow for a 3rd party to request data on behalf of the data subject. For example:

A20(2): In exercising his or her right to data portability pursuant to paragraph 1, the data subject shall have the right to have the personal data transmitted directly from one controller to another, where technically feasible.

A12(3): ... Where the data subject makes the request by electronic form means, the information shall be provided by electronic means where possible, unless otherwise requested by the data subject.

Even in the case it didn't work out to directly query, as another has suggested, just making it easy to fill out as many forms as possible in an automated fashion has value. Use their email to send from.

Also, how does the data subject or gdpr.me know that your company hasn't hoovered up some PII of the data subject?

I've read it several times and unless more clarity comes down on questions like this I'm quite afraid of abuse. I've read 8% of UK citizens intend to (ab)use GDPR for spiteful reasons.

EDIT:

Ok - I believe this absolutely supports my point, straight from the horse's mouth... This is from WP29-2017-4-data-portability-guidance:

"Data subjects should be enabled to make use of a personal data store, personal information management system (PIMS) or other kinds of trusted third-parties, to hold and store the personal data and grant permission to data controllers to access and process the personal data as required."

This is immediately after saying businesses should create API's to allow data portability and GDPR requests.

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6. jacque+aG1[view] [source] 2018-05-19 00:29:24
>>phelev+WC1
I don't buy that that allows you to send random requests to parties that you have no way of knowing the requester has a relationship with. That is an unreasonable burden to place on the recipient of such a request. Essentially you will be sending them on a wild goose chase which is against the intent of the law, which is to give people control over their data, not for people to harass random companies, even more so to do this in an automated way.

You can of course go and approach this from a legalistic point of view but that's usually not how things work in the EU, if you are going to split legal hairs to see how you might be able to get away with something then you will be in for a surprise.

But don't take my word for it, feel free to build and launch the service and we'll see if it flies. For $40 I'll pass :)

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