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>>andren+(OP)
It’s important to investigate this topic from various perspectives, and the text contains a couple of important points (which of course are not new to anyone who’s been following this debate).

However, right at the beginning, this is really a bad argument: “There is particular concern about the lack of women in prestigious STEM fields, such as Ph.D.-level faculty positions, but surprisingly there is no concern about the under-representation of women in lower-level technical jobs, such as car mechanics or plumbing.”

This can hardly be surprising to the authors. People in lower-level technical jobs don’t have as much power over society at large as those in high-level positions. Thus gender imbalances there don’t have the same supposed impact and perpetuating effect on structural imbalances as those in high-level fields (an example: the recent study about facial recognition being less accurate on female faces). Thus they are not considered as harmful in the grand scheme of things.

Edit: In other words: no matter where one stands in the debate about the reasons for gender imbalance in STEM, it is totally reasonable not to be too concerned about imbalances among plumbers or car mechanics, because this imbalance does have less consequences. It doesn’t matter for any other aspect in life whether a woman or man fixes the car, but it matters who creates the algorithms that control everyone’s lives.

>>imarti+F4
Can someone with vouching powers vouch for SidiousL? He appears to have been shadowbanned for no discernible reason.

>>barry-+H9
The discernible reason was given by dang: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14882450

>>yorwba+8r
I don't know if you're going to see this, but I feel the need to defend myself. Sorry about going on a tangent here, but I have no other way of doing this.

Here's what happened. Somebody posted a link to a PhD thesis in mathematics which was not at all written in the style in which math PhD these are written. Somebody else commented that this is great all math PhD these should be written like that. Then, I pointed out that the author of this thesis (a black woman), wrote a piece on a blog of the American Mathematical Society website saying that all the white male in the math departments in the USA are the problem, she wants them out and they should all resign.

Then various people started down-voting and attacking me. I replied to their attacks and defended myself. This amounted to "ideological war" according to some moderator. Also, since I did not use this account for making lots of comments, it appeared to the moderator that this account was created to primarily to start flamewars. The people who attacked me in a very nasty and personal way did not suffer any consequences since they had more comments hence their accounts looked more legitimate.

So yes, I feel like I've been the victim of an injustice.