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1. edna31+rd[view] [source] 2018-02-15 12:18:54
>>andren+(OP)
I don't get it. Why is equality of outcome not a desirable goal, especially in science and technology? These authors only try to disprove theories which potentially explain the inequality and then conclude that there is no injustice. This is logically flawed in my opinion. In order to justify the inequality they would need to come up with a plausible theory why the inequality is inevitable and then support it with sound facts. Otherwise social pressure from "feminists" is well justified.
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2. modusp+cq[view] [source] 2018-02-15 14:32:32
>>edna31+rd
Would equality of outcome in the NBA be a desirable goal?

Why do we see so few East Asian, Hispanic, and Jewish NBA players? What policy would you create to correct this "injustice?"

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3. edna31+5t[view] [source] 2018-02-15 14:51:57
>>modusp+cq
> Would equality of outcome in the NBA be a desirable goal?

If it wouldn't on average it's reasonable to assume that there is a bias of some sort. You can decide if this bias desirable or not.

> Why do we see so few East Asian, Hispanic, and Jewish NBA players? What policy would you create to correct this "injustice?"

Because they don't seem to care. If they would care, it is your decision whether you fight with them or implement a quota.

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4. modusp+Lw[view] [source] 2018-02-15 15:15:54
>>edna31+5t
> If it wouldn't on average it's reasonable to assume that there is a bias of some sort. You can decide if this bias desirable or not.

This doesn't answer my question. Is equality of outcome in the NBA a desirable goal or not?

If not, why is it one in science or tech fields?

> Because they don't seem to care.

I'm sure many do. Many women "don't seem to care" that they took nursing jobs while many men took software engineering jobs.

How many Hispanic men have to feel like they'd rather be famous millionaire basketball players before we get the NBA to start with racial quotas?

I don't mean to be pedantic. It just seems obvious that American black culture puts a heavier emphasis on basketball, and that results in more world-class basketball players. That in no way implies anything is wrong with basketball or the NBA, and therefore taking measures to bring about "equality of outcome" would be unfair and undesirable.

...and that's why policy attempting to create "equality of outcome" is not inherently desirable in science / tech (or anywhere else).

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