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1. wcarro+4d[view] [source] 2018-01-19 00:49:04
>>zdw+(OP)
I think this was well written. There were a few instances where, upon first reading it, I objected. But rereading it, I thought the language used was chosen well.

I have one main gripe, though: The scope limitation to tech.

> "Toxic tech cultures are those that demean and devalue you as holistic, multifaceted human beings. Toxic tech cultures are those that prioritize profits and growth over human and societal well being. Toxic tech cultures are those that treat you as replaceable cogs within a system of constant churn and burnout.

This is __not__ a tech specific problem. This is a systemic aspect of labor in an overly-capitalist society. Not bashing capitalism, either. But, spare me the 'woe is me, tech bros are out to get us'. Sure, some are. But these problems exist in every industry; the service industry, Hollywood and film, architecture and construction, finance, etc.

As I said, I think the rest of the article was well written and on-topic. That, though, is trying to paint rice grains with a broom.

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2. adamse+Tl[view] [source] 2018-01-19 02:29:10
>>wcarro+4d
Perhaps you could say there is a specific instantiation of this problem in tech.
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3. hypati+9D[view] [source] 2018-01-19 07:49:40
>>adamse+Tl
Well put. I’m always amused by arguments of the form “but this isn’t just a tech problem” - people get so mad about limiting the scope to one’s own expertise and experience, but also accuse you of overreach when you try to generalize beyond it! Can’t win.
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4. gaius+JL[view] [source] 2018-01-19 10:31:19
>>hypati+9D
I’m always amused by arguments of the form “but this isn’t just a tech problem”

Well, it isn’t. You can’t take a problem that is universal to all workers in all industries as evidence that one demographic in one industry is discriminated against.

And, it is easy to generalise: Workers on one side, bosses on the other.

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