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1. tlb+h7[view] [source] 2018-01-18 23:52:04
>>zdw+(OP)
I predict people will claim "our culture isn't that toxic. Some of those things happen, but they don't bother me much."

If any non-zero subset of reasonable people are so offended by a behavior that they'd leave the industry because of it, we have to cut it out.

So don't ask "would this bother me?" Ask "would it bother someone?" And since you can't predict this from inside your head, you have to rely on firsthand accounts of people being bothered. This seems like a good overview of such accounts.

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2. ryandr+yd[view] [source] 2018-01-19 00:55:46
>>tlb+h7
If I actually abstained from all things that “would bother someone” I would never even be able to leave the house. No matter what you do, I guarantee that there is someone, somewhere, who will be gravely offended by it. This doesn’t even include the people who are out there actively looking for things to take offense to. Trying to please everyone is not a winnable game.
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3. cutcss+Hf[view] [source] 2018-01-19 01:22:16
>>ryandr+yd
And even if you could please everyone that doesn't guarantees you are a net positive for society; for example Galileo had to bother a lot of people to convince them the earth rotates around the sun and not otherwise; and pretty much anyone with an unpopular opinion that at the end turned out be for the best had to bother a lot of people.
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4. taneq+Qg[view] [source] 2018-01-19 01:33:21
>>cutcss+Hf
"If you're not making anyone angry, you're not doing anything important."

(Note, however, that the contrapositive is "if you're doing something important, you'll make someone angry", not "if you're making people angry, you're doing something important"!)

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5. qu4z-2+gl[view] [source] 2018-01-19 02:22:00
>>taneq+Qg
Thank you for the second half of this comment.
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