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1. jstewa+B6[view] [source] 2017-10-27 09:53:18
>>Dyslex+(OP)
Classic Theo:

"x86 virtualization is about basically placing another nearly full kernel, full of new bugs, on top of a nasty x86 architecture which barely has correct page protection. Then running your operating system on the other side of this brand new pile of shit.

You are absolutely deluded, if not stupid, if you think that a worldwide collection of software engineers who can't write operating systems or applications without security holes, can then turn around and suddenly write virtualization layers without security holes."

https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=119318909016582

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2. tptace+hH[view] [source] 2017-10-27 15:21:04
>>jstewa+B6
You want the rest of the list of architectural security features Theo also doesn't believe in? It's pretty long.

For a very long time, Theo subscribed to the philosophy that the way to get a secure OS was to keep it as simple as POSIX and historical BSD would allow him to (and no simpler) while eradicating all the bugs. Eradicating bugs is obviously a good thing, but the track record of that strategy in the real world has not been great.

That's obviously changed over the last 5 years or so, but you should be careful reflecting DeRaadt cynicism from a decade ago into modern discussions.

Qubes is surely a better bet than vanilla OpenBSD.

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3. Daniha+gR[view] [source] 2017-10-27 16:25:43
>>tptace+hH
>Qubes is surely a better bet than vanilla OpenBSD.

Is there a concrete reason you believe that or just a gut feeling?

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