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1. interp+W9[view] [source] 2017-07-27 12:48:02
>>jaffat+(OP)
I hate using web apps. On desktop, mobile, wherever. The author's list of things they want supported by Mobile Safari is just aggravating:

> Here are a list of things you still can’t do with mobile safari due to Apple’s refusal to support them:

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> Create an app loading screen

> Use push notifications

> Add offline support

> Create an initial app UI to load instantly

> Prompt installation to the home screen through browser-guided dialog

Why do I want these things, as a user. App loading screens?

I love the web. I love hyperlinks, text and images. The web of connections that lead you to information. Everything in that list is detrimental to a good experience on the web.

I don't want push notifications, I barely enable them for native apps. And it bugs the hell out of me when every second website in desktop Safari prompts to send me push notifications. No. Why would I want this on mobile?

Same thing with the home screen. I love the fact that the address bar in my web browser is my history, my reminders, my bookmarks, my open tabs. I start typing what I want and I'm there. Finding native apps on my home screen is only just getting to the same place with Spotlight, why would I want to make the web worse by sticking icons for pages on my home screen?

And browser-guided dialogs to put more icons on my home screen? Seriously?

This author's post is a great argument against web apps on mobile.

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2. jaffat+Gi[view] [source] 2017-07-27 13:59:31
>>interp+W9
I use the Facebook site added to my homescreen rather than a native app. Uses way less space & does everything I want Facebook to be able to do.

I don't want push notifications from every site, but in this case it's valuable.

I wish it worked offline-first, but I know it's something they're looking at.

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3. dccool+8o[view] [source] 2017-07-27 14:31:48
>>jaffat+Gi
Native apps are the new desktop apps. OK for gaming, overkill and gaping privacy hole for everything else.
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4. sidlls+1B[view] [source] 2017-07-27 15:52:12
>>dccool+8o
Because web apps are certainly very good at protecting privacy.
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5. dccool+jD[view] [source] 2017-07-27 16:06:40
>>sidlls+1B
"To read news on this site, you must give permission to: Your phone Your camera All your files " I've never seen that on a web app, but it's de rigeur for native mobile.
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