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[return to "Apple’s refusal to support Progressive Web Apps is a detriment to the web"]
1. pluma+E2[view] [source] 2017-07-27 11:39:35
>>jaffat+(OP)
I think push notifications and offline support are the real killer features that Apple currently doesn't support.

It's kind of funny as a web developer because for the longest time Apple seemed to be the one pushing the mobile web forward but now that web apps are reaching for feature parity with native, Apple's initial momentum seems to be ancient history.

It seems Apple still thinks of the mobile web as a content delivery platform rather than an application platform. Their proprietary additions (mostly CSS) largely focused on making things prettier, their rationale for opting out of standard features (e.g. autoplay) often only work under the assumption that the only use for those features would be in the context of traditional content pages.

You want an app? Develop for our walled garden we tightly control to offer our users the best possible experience. If you want it on the web, stick to creating content our users can consume in Mobile Safari, our app for reading websites.

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2. tallan+o8[view] [source] 2017-07-27 12:34:40
>>pluma+E2
A lot of people are already sick and tired of websites asking to be able to send push notifications in the browser. Annoying people isn't a "killer feature", it's an aggravation.

If a normal website can't do the job, and the developer isn't willing to develop a native app, then maybe the product simply isn't necessary.

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3. jdauri+xu[view] [source] 2017-07-27 15:12:22
>>tallan+o8
>If a normal website can't do the job, and the developer isn't willing to develop a native app, then maybe the product simply isn't necessary.

That seems like circular logic. IMO, very few products are "necessary," and sure, right now developers have pretty much no choice but to support native walled gardens if they want to support the list of features PWA offers.

But what if users had a real choice? What if the web browser could offer an immersive user experience on par with native mobile apps? What if browser vendors actually put in effort to optimize for user preferences regarding PWA call-to-actions? What if PWAs were as widely promoted as native app stores?

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