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1. unabst+xa1[view] [source] 2016-07-27 18:23:34
>>Damien+(OP)
The only question we should be asking is this. Why do some votes count more than others? The fact that there are delegates, let alone super delegates, is damning. You should always question someone claiming they will "represent" you.

Democracy at its best does not need any systems or hierarchies or even parties. It needs people, all equal, to all vote, and to all be counted. That's it.

I for one am all for mandatory voting, and a mandatory voting national holiday. Those who don't want to vote can vote "null" in protest. And they will feel their voice was heard because it will be. That would be a true democracy and a holiday America would be proud of.

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2. jessed+Do1[view] [source] 2016-07-27 20:18:38
>>unabst+xa1
Your claim that direct, popular democracy is the most desirable form is not obvious, and needs to be substantiated.
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3. unabst+xs1[view] [source] 2016-07-27 20:50:14
>>jessed+Do1
If democracy is about every American having an equal say, and if our vote is that voice, then there should be nothing standing between an individual and their vote.

There is nothing that can be placed in between you and your voice that will add to what you will say. No system, no bureaucracy, no process, no delegate, nothing. This is a fundamental virtue of communication. Imagine if anything stood between you and the submit button you used to respond? Even if you had to tell someone first who then had to tell me, the message could be tainted. A man-in-the-middle is inherently insecure, whether it's actually a man or anything else. Just my keyboard will give me typos.

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4. jessed+BD1[view] [source] 2016-07-27 22:59:31
>>unabst+xs1
I think you are reiterating your claims without demonstrating why these things are true. There are a wide number of issue which require a deep level of research and experience to consider.

It's unfeasible to educate all 150M+ voters to the level where we can be confident their opinion on the question is informed. Absent that, their votes will only measure how the question feels with respect to gut-instinct and common "wisdom". Moreover, it would be a waste of time to have 300M (we need to teach the children too) people all be educated on the minutiae of every public policy. The field of public policy is an actual discipline precisely because it is something that people need to specialize in.

Given questions like,

- what range of broadcasting frequencies should be set aside for public use?

- what should the maximum allowable individual gross income be before one should be required to pay AMT if it exceeds AGI; what about jointly-filing couples?

- what should the agricultural subsidy be for soy and grain farmers?

how do you think the average person is supposed to decide these things?

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