zlacker

[return to "Why privacy is important, and having “nothing to hide” is irrelevant"]
1. SFjuli+ch[view] [source] 2016-01-06 06:06:49
>>syness+(OP)
Wishing privacy on the internet is like wishing no turmoil while shagging during a massive religious events of paranoid gunned puritans.

If privacy is such a problem for some it is not a technological problem, it is a political problem. If so, people concerned should make their revolution in an appropriate place: the real world, and let internet stay a public media.

PS noticed another fun topic there are blacklisted keywords on HN, like F words. Isn't censorship more concerning than privacy on a media? And funnily enough all the "lite" censorship nowadays are first about sex and gross words. Are sex and slang that dangerous?

◧◩
2. zAy0Lf+YW[view] [source] 2016-01-06 16:43:02
>>SFjuli+ch
> Wishing privacy on the internet is like wishing no turmoil while shagging during a massive religious events of paranoid gunned puritans.

Why do you think that?

> If privacy is such a problem for some it is not a technological problem, it is a political problem.

Why do you think that?

> If so, people concerned should make their revolution in an appropriate place: the real world, and let internet stay a public media.

The internet is the real world.

Also, who wants to make the internet a non-public media?

◧◩◪
3. SFjuli+lc2[view] [source] 2016-01-07 06:08:24
>>zAy0Lf+YW
Because main manufacturers of equipment are also from paranoid puritans country ? (Huawey, Cisco, juniper, alcatel, nortel, ericson ...) And that it make MITM easy for agencies since government heavily subsidise telecoms maybe? ($$ for a backdoor)

And since Internet is globally like a very fast Gutenberg press, it has the same property as printed paper: privacy is not a problem of the media, but of the institutions/organizations trying to control it. It is controled by law or force. Law/force comes from/is backed by government, so if you don't have privacy then complain to your government for his actions (or lack of).

Sum up: privacy is not an internet problem (media). It is a problem between the citizens and their governments (use of media).

Had you opened a good history book you should know it. And also in the same books you should discover that the concern for privacy has already existed before internet : the more governments are authoritative the more they both tend to love secrecy for themselves and hate public debate for the others and want to control media.

Control of media by the government do not always align with the public's best interests. DMCA, patents, IP laws, "censorship for the protection of the kids" ? Does it ring a bell? Google who wants you to read only sites that have nice ads so they filter out as non relevant some information.

Want to overthrow your government in the shadow? commit a crime? Sext your gf? I don't care about these usage and consider them accessory. They divert people from real problems like accessing the information vehicled by the media.

By the way, they make very nice tinfoil hats nowadays. There are successful crowdfundings for it.

Ho, and internet is the real world? Ah ah ah.

As much as "war and peace" is the real world.

[go to top]