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1. henghe+D3[view] [source] 2015-12-12 14:04:39
>>quanti+(OP)
I don't do a whole lot of software (got caught up on the hardware side of things), but one thing I'm noticing is that nobody makes extensive use of "advanced" IDE features as in eclipse or visual Studio.

Is this personal taste, or has it to do with the scope of the projects these guys are working on?

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2. JustSo+M6[view] [source] 2015-12-12 15:08:57
>>henghe+D3
For me, IDEs are great for when I have to do boilerplate coding. But when I switch to real business logic I use an editor like vi or sublime. Anything more impedes my thinking and gets in my way.
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3. edwinn+37[view] [source] 2015-12-12 15:15:58
>>JustSo+M6
I'm guessing you're probably not writing unit test or use code coverage plugins or running static code analysis to provide feedback incrementally and quickly?
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4. workit+h9[view] [source] 2015-12-12 15:59:54
>>edwinn+37
Thinking the same thing, I use vi for short scripts all the time but can't imagine doing anything more complex than that without the power of an IDE to assist with or even do the grunt work for me.
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5. Robopr+zk[view] [source] 2015-12-12 19:24:52
>>workit+h9
I appreciate the cross referencing / browsing / documentation capabilities of a good IDE. (especially if it has a vim plugin so my fingers know what to do)

If I uncharitably assume that grunt work means "redundant boilerplate", that sounds like more of a language issue than a tool issue. This said as a Java programmer who has been doing a lot of JavaScript this last year, and REALLY appreciates the brevity. Even if your IDE can generate it, that doesn't mean I want to read it.

Java: the language that has to wear a paper bag over its face while it's screwin' ya. :-)

(think of all those Eclipse plugins to visualize fugly XML bogo-DSLs and other cruft for The Enterprise -- sure, there are worse languages out there, but not in common use now)

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6. edwinn+Xs1[view] [source] 2015-12-13 22:06:05
>>Robopr+zk
IDE these days are more than that :)

https://emptysqua.re/blog/unittests-code-coverage-in-pycharm...

http://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2012/04/code-coverage-for-jav...

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