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1. crypti+I5[view] [source] 2015-11-14 01:32:45
>>franzb+(OP)
This soils the reputation of islam. I know some good people (muslims) who suffer from prejudice on a daily basis because of attacks like these.

Being a muslim in a foreign country is an increasingly difficult and isolating experience.

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2. imagin+28[view] [source] 2015-11-14 02:07:40
>>crypti+I5
Islam soils the reputation of islam. It has a massive problem of large percentages of Muslims supporting (or being okay with) violence and terrorism.

42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).

http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-ameri...

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3. dang+H8[view] [source] 2015-11-14 02:17:47
>>imagin+28
> Islam soils the reputation of islam.

No slurs, please. We've already banned one account for turning this thread into a religious flamewar. Comments here need to stay factual.

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4. imagin+J9[view] [source] 2015-11-14 02:30:15
>>dang+H8
I did stay factual, I even provided a link.

If you're going to restrict speech, restrict all mentions of religion, not just the ones that contradict your preconceived notion.

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5. decipl+Gb[view] [source] 2015-11-14 03:15:34
>>imagin+J9
Indeed. The moderation in this thread has been supremely disappointing. Your post contained no slurs, only an interpretation of data along with a link.
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6. davesq+4e[view] [source] 2015-11-14 04:09:57
>>decipl+Gb
No. What dang quoted was a slur.

Definition from http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_eng...:

"An insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation"

Saying that "Islam soils the reputation of islam" is a slur by any reasonable interpretation. The link provided some information but the first sentence did nothing to that effect and was simply inflammatory.

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7. decipl+te[view] [source] 2015-11-14 04:20:13
>>davesq+4e
This wasn't a mere insinuation, this was a claim made along with some study linked in support of the claim. And since the topic at hand is precisely Islam's reputation in the first place, it seems we can't have any conversation about Islam's reputation for violence (deserved or not), and what to do about it, at all.

If your goal is to integrate Muslims living in Western nations into Western society, what is going on here is not helping to achieve it.

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8. davesq+Zh[view] [source] 2015-11-14 05:53:30
>>decipl+te
The OP began by saying "Islam soils the reputation of islam. It has a massive problem of large percentages of Muslims supporting (or being okay with) violence and terrorism." Without further proof, that statement is an allegation at best and a slur at worst (especially if the following proof doesn't hold up).

He then went on to say "42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall)." So why wasn't his original statement "Islam in France among 42% of Muslims less than 30 years of age (that were prompted to answer a survey question in an environment we know nothing about) soils the reputation of Islam?"

So, he began by making a broad generalization about Islam as a whole and then quoted a statistical observation about a small percentage of Muslims. Sorry, but 2 + 2 = 4. Broad generalization + no proof = slur.

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