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1. ikeboy+14[view] [source] 2015-09-06 22:04:18
>>dang+(OP)
Does this apply for academic links as well? I.e. can we post a mirror to a paywalled study?
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2. JorgeG+J4[view] [source] 2015-09-06 22:15:24
>>ikeboy+14
Apparently yes, think what would happen if HN would lose Nature, Science, Cell, IEEE, etc. original content!
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3. ikeboy+W4[view] [source] 2015-09-06 22:18:45
>>JorgeG+J4
Several of those don't have real or full paywalls anymore.

I was thinking more of Elsevier, which actively sues websites that publish mirrors of papers (see https://torrentfreak.com/elsevier-cracks-down-on-pirated-sci...).

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4. JorgeG+d5[view] [source] 2015-09-06 22:24:48
>>ikeboy+W4
There are indeed a lot of high IF journals in Elsevier (152 on Computer Science alone) so if pay-only news articles are allowed I don't see why hard science shouldn't, right?
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5. ikeboy+H5[view] [source] 2015-09-06 22:36:35
>>JorgeG+d5
I think you may have misunderstood. I'm not asking if we're allowed to submit links to Elsevier. I'm asking if we're allowed to include a mirror in the comments of an Elsevier submission. This is different from news articles because the news paywalls are only meant to kick in after a bit of usage and are easily avoided by new window or similar, while studies generally require a subscription or paying a fee. The "workaround" for those involves someone with a subscription downloading it and uploading elsewhere, and whether that's allowed on HN wasn't clear from this post.
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